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I am finishing up the third story in my Immortal Dean 'verse and I want to clarify a few HL canon issues. It has to do with the idea of Dean being as foundling or not.
How "canon" is the concept that all Immortals are orphans? Or is it that by the time the Watchers start tracking them there is no way to confirm parentage? I know that Duncan's parents have said they don't know where he came from and I think Ritchie was in foster care. Is it because of them, that this has become canon?

What is the prevailing theory about where the Immortals come from? Would I be committing huge HL heresy if I kept Dean and Sam related? The story can go either way but this is the big turning point.

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Date: 2007-08-18 06:21 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] ithildyn.livejournal.com
It's pretty canon that they're orphans, though on the other hand Highlander has never been good at exploring the details, expecting us to ignore the big gaiping holes! If you stick to the series, and not the movies, which a lot of tend to do since the movie sequels were crap and very contradictory, we don't know where Immortals come from.

As for Sam and Dean being related, just because we never saw related immortals, doens't mean it isn't possible. I was going to take that avenue myself for the HL/Holby fic I write sine now it turns out one of the characters I planned on being a pre immortal is a twin. So, pre-immortal twins!

It's a subject that has lots of theories and ways around show canon, and I think a lot of us have our own pet theories on where Immortals come from, and even if there's a way maybe for really old Immortals to have children, even though it is totalt canon that immies are sterile.

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Date: 2007-08-18 09:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] strangevisitor7.livejournal.com
I knew I could count on you to help clarify this issue. I ignore the movies as well. Good to know it is not definitive. Heck the crossover format is AU anyway but I don't want to break any of the hard and fast established ideas. Like the sterility issue - it was defined in that episode when Richie thinks he's a dad. So no baby Deans

The lack of a definitive origin is great (and what i thought.)because I have a thoery then which shouldn't not break any cannon and tie the two world together.


On a completely different topic - What is Holby? I hear youguys talk about it but i've never seen it.

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Date: 2007-08-18 09:40 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] ithildyn.livejournal.com
It's the show Peter's currently doing in the UK called Holby City. It's set in a hospital and he plays a surgeon named Daniel Clifford. Since Methos was also a doctor (Peter plays lots od doctors, which is funny since he went to medical school before he became an actor) , we decided early on that Dan is one of Methos' identities and so Holby/HL fic commenced [g] I've written one complete fic and assorted drabbles so far, and I have a sequel that's one part posted so far.

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Date: 2007-08-18 10:34 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] idontlikegravy.livejournal.com
Yes and we're all hoping you post another part soon. *g*
Ah, Dan. *sighs*

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Date: 2007-08-18 10:39 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] idontlikegravy.livejournal.com
Like Ith said, it is canon that they're foundlings but probably only to avoid having to explain how they are Immortal.

And seeing as how everyone ignores Highlander 2 and defines Immortals as human there is absolutely no reason why they can't know their parents. Just because it never happened doesn't mean it couldn't happen.

Besides which, the Winchesters have never been one for playing by the rules anyway. ;-)
I think as long as you're true to the universe you're creating and are mindful to stay in character (if that's you're intention) then this grey area of canon can be ignored.

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Date: 2007-08-18 10:41 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] idontlikegravy.livejournal.com
Bollocks, I hate the fact you can't edit comments. Please ignore awful grammar in previous comment. It's very late here and I was up early for work.

*headdesk*

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Date: 2007-08-19 01:37 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] strangevisitor7.livejournal.com
thanks. Makes sense to me that Holby is Methos. I will have to check out your fic on that. Why can't I get the UK shows I want. *sighs*

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Date: 2007-08-19 01:40 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] strangevisitor7.livejournal.com
Thanks. I think what I want to do, as for as a side hint at Immortal origin, won't upset the HL fans. Also I need a Richie Icon - know where I can steal one. :-D

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Date: 2007-08-19 01:42 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] strangevisitor7.livejournal.com
I mean that Dan is Methos in Holby City. i agree with 'idontlikegravy' why can't we edit comments

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Date: 2007-08-19 01:43 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] ithildyn.livejournal.com
[whispers] you have to download it, and I can point you in the direction of where to do that.

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Date: 2007-08-19 01:45 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] ithildyn.livejournal.com
And throwing SPN into the mix means you can have demonic or heavenly interference.

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Date: 2007-08-19 01:47 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] ithildyn.livejournal.com
Oh, as for the fic, the first one is 'By My Side, You'll Never Be' and the drabbles are 'Don't You Dare Laugh!' -- both linked on my sidebar.

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Date: 2007-08-19 02:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] strangevisitor7.livejournal.com
You read my mind!

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Date: 2007-08-19 02:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] strangevisitor7.livejournal.com
Point me! Please :-D

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Date: 2007-08-19 08:33 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] idontlikegravy.livejournal.com
jinxed_wood has a nice head shot of Rich, I only have my Pretty Boy *points left* thanks to the limits of a free account, but you're welcome to snafoo if you so desire. All I ask for is credit. *g*
If you find any really good ones in your hunt please let me know, I'm always on the look out.

Happy hunting :)

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Date: 2007-08-19 08:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] strangevisitor7.livejournal.com
I'll keep looking. I expanded my paid account just to accommodate my icon obsession. Yep it's just that bad.

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